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    I'm still amazed how many of you don't seem to understand that just because a company makes a 20" "off road" tire with a little aggressive tread, it doesn't mean that you can actually take it off road. It's just fashion, people. Don't you see pictures of those rediculous 'off road' SUV's at the auto shows that you really can't drive anywhere? I see someone here besides me destroyed their stock 19's and Contis with some non-aggressive off roading. The reason is the same: You need MORE RUBBER between the edge of the wheel and the ground. There's simply no arguing that point. That's why a few of us here only off-road with the 18" wheels and the Nittos (or similar size), to give us about 1.5" more sidewall height. If there was a way to get 'normal' 16" wheels on this blasted vehicle, I'd pay dearly for them. If you put 20" 'dirt tires' on your rig, it's just Gucci. They will fail and you will pay for it.

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    Jeffrey

    i understand what you are saying and i knew that. what i am looking for is just a tire that has more of an agressive pattern that i could take to the beach or go camping, as apposed to the stock conties or other summer tires that would be just as bad.
    and yes you do need more side wall on a tire to go offroading but us SC owner's that take are trucks of the normall path are all screwed regardless. however having a little more aggresive tread is nice to have.

    so for driving on the beach in either my 20's with the Conties, or driving on the beach with the Cooper's on. id rather have the Cooper's on, because i have no other choice with my Sport.

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    Redmann - your 20" AT's will be good for snow roads/trails too though where you don't hit deep holes or hard bumps/edges. the stock tires were most likely, 275/40 (29") and the ones you are talking about, 275/45, will be 30" which will also give you a touch more clearance but just know the low ride handling will start to go away as well. you could even get away with 275/50 (31.5" tall = 1.25" more ground clearance than your stock tire provided) but then they won't handle as well for all your driving seeing as you are doing more or less a permanent switch.

    you know, it's possible for you to pick up cheap 19" rims and then dig a little for AT tires on those down the road.

    by rubber the other guy means air space between your rims and the objects of course. on your beach outings you would benefit from having the extra air space height to allow "airing down" for better loose soil/sand traction.

    enough on this though, sorry some people did not find the information useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey
    I'm still amazed how many of you don't seem to understand that just because a company makes a 20" "off road" tire with a little aggressive tread, it doesn't mean that you can actually take it off road.
    Well then what would you suggest, oh holy offroad god, for us with the Brembos?

    Obviously you can't do Baja, but common now. I took my stock 20" 'street tires' offroad. Sure, my rims got trashed, but whatever... I don't really have an option anyways with the bigger brakes and whatnot.

    I guess I'd look at the HSE 19's, but then I'd have to buy a whole other set of wheels and tires... and according to Jwest, I can't afford that. I'll just stick with my beatup 20's and go as far as they'll take me. If I can find a better tire for them, then why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drevs
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey
    I'm still amazed how many of you don't seem to understand that just because a company makes a 20" "off road" tire with a little aggressive tread, it doesn't mean that you can actually take it off road.
    Well then what would you suggest, oh holy offroad god, for us with the Brembos?

    Obviously you can't do Baja, but common now. I took my stock 20" 'street tires' offroad. Sure, my rims got trashed, but whatever... I don't really have an option anyways with the bigger brakes and whatnot.

    I guess I'd look at the HSE 19's, but then I'd have to buy a whole other set of wheels and tires... and according to Jwest, I can't afford that. I'll just stick with my beatup 20's and go as far as they'll take me. If I can find a better tire for them, then why not?
    Dang it Drevs, I didn't say anyone couldn't afford it, in fact I said you all out to buy an extra set or not buy the RRsport with brembos to start with or if you must have the sport, also buy a late model DiscoII. Wasn't your car around $70k in the first place? You surely can afford some little rims and tires!
    As for 19"s, a 30 second ebay search found some rrs 19"s for $200 each plus $135 shipping. I am sure anyone on here playing with a vehicle costing over $50k used can spring for $1100 in rims and another $800-$1000 on 19" goodyear mtr tires from the uk.

    Lastly, about the Brembos....I was curious about how tight 18"s would be on my SC Range Rover so I tried a land rover 18 I had and found it to 'almost' fit making me wonder if a custom/offroad racing shop could properly grind off just a smidgen of excess caliper to allow 18s. You could also SELL the brembos ( i know, it's crazy) and use standard brakes which would allow 18's. you'd still have the motor AND the big'un offroad tires then.

    see this for thread on 19"rims in UK on RRSports, and a great photo:
    http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic1110 ... 19+terrain
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    I know the facts hurt sometimes, but if I am now the "oh holy offroad god" for simply presenting them, then so be it. I didn't create them. Neither did I manufacture and market a highway cruiser with a transfer case(?!?). But some people still buy them and then wonder why they are not able to safely travel rough trails. It's partly LR's fault, but each buyer must be knowledgeable about what they're getting into and what it will actually do. Most don't have the experience or do thorough research.

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    They make 17 inch wheels for the LR3 in the UK so those same wheels will fit the Sport. If someone could get a small group buy together I bet you could have a company fabricate some 17 inch steel wheels for less then the cost of importing 17 inch alloys from Europe.

    You would just need to get a group of 10-15 people and then the specs of the 17 inch wheels. Once that was done I bet the same company could figure out a way to make 18 inch steel wheels that will fit around Brembos. I haven't taken measurments but I bet someone clever could do it with some fancy offset and the right kind of steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey
    I know the facts hurt sometimes
    I think the only thing 'hurt' by any of this is your personally idyllic vision of LR exclusively designing hard core offroad vehicles.

    Regardless, I would never survive in the naturally aspirated RRS. I had an LR3 loaner this past weekend, and it was soooo sloooowwwwww......

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    I'm sorry you can't take the truth, and sadly feel compelled to continually bash other forum members with your comments and need for speed. Why don't you just buy a much faster Porsche and drive outa here? After all, you're trying to go real fast in a truck!

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    then again, Jeffrey, I wouldn't have a sport if it were given to me so maybe I should get off this side. I only posted because I was trying to help with tire fitting because I've owned a Supercharged RR and still have a Disco1,II and 3 with varying tire sizes and purposes.

    IF I were to go for speed or bling-truck, aside from an 07 or newer RRSC I'd have the GL500 or a Porchse Cayenne Turbo. At least the Mercedes is solid axle front and rear with some offroad capability well beyond the sport. For speed freaks it can also be amazingly outfitted to 500 hp or something....with a few $.
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    jwest, I appreciate your posts here. I had a Disco 1 until a few months ago. It was completely setup for offroad, and I used it extensively that way. My next rig is a 4x4 Sportsmobile.

    Jeffrey


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    last one on this forum side: oh never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey
    continually bash other forum members with your comments
    You're the one that came into this thread and pompously stated your pseudo-amazement that us SC users were naive enough to think that our truck could go offroad. You're also the only person to continually scoff at any thread that deals with 22" wheels, color coding, aftermarket grills, etc.

    I appreciate your humor and utilitarian bend towards land rovers, but this thread is obviously not the right place for someone with your views. I find it hard to believe that there's not even a tiny part of your traditionalist personality that's perturbed LR's hottest model (ever?) is a street truck.

    And fwiw, I placate my my 'need for speed' with a 640 horse blown Z06 - Thanks for your concern.

    ....still interested to hear some member feedback on this new tire....

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    Folks, a lot of this thread will have to be deleted if you don't stop trading insults -- please keep the tone of the conversation up to our usual standards!

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    so on a lighter note................

    the Cooper tires came in today 275/45/20 and the tread looks really nice and aggressive
    i will post some pictures on Wednesday and have them instaled some time this week.

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