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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    I ran my car for a long time raised (only about an 1") above onroad height and had not issues with the CVs - I think that for normal onroad use you will get away with a 2" lift with onroad height selected.

    Unfortunately the CVs are not the strongest and where experience here in Aust shows up them failing is when offroad, at high heights, steering right over and weight transfer to that side. With LLAMs I can lift my car to the equivalent of super extended height and when offroad I am very aware of this issue.

    But if you are not going to heard offroad you should be OK. If you do go offroad, you will be Ok at offroad height and 2" lift and your big tyres) but if you get grounded and it automatically lifts I would be vary wary and keep the steering wheel straight.

    Are you putting a winch in the bull bar and an ARB air locker in the front diff?
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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    What is your plan on how to deal with the issue of the tyres on the body work if the suspension has a hissy fit and it goes down to the bump stops?

    My advice would be an emergency EAS inflation kit so that you can pump up each corner individually with a tyre air compressor so bypassing the car's systems. Of course if you had a split airbag ir would not help but then you would be in deep do do anyway.

    Are you using rods or a height controller like LLAMS to get lift over your tyres? I have LLAMS and would be lost without it and I only run 265/60R18.

    Garry
    Hi Garry, working on this using some ARB components. Agreed on split bag; will make sure that bags are inspected on oil changes.

    Using the Lucky8/Proud Rhino SYA OffRoad bump stop spacer kit w/ rods; https://www.lucky8llc.com/collection...nsion-kit-plus
    Same as LR4 but front strap length different for RRS.

    Also have a LLAMS that just arrived. Anxious to get this installed--heard good things! Glad you approve of yours!
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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by MI2VA View Post
    Are there any concerns with running a high lift and putting undue stress on the CV joints? Seems like they may be close to binding? I do know the lift changes the alignment and it may be a good idea to have it checked once the lift is completed. I run about 2" lift and that required some adjustments on the rack.
    It looks great by the way.
    Thanks much!
    Per Erik at Lucky8 and the SYA OffRoad kit; "The stand out features in this kit over the street kit is that we have included limiting straps and Proud Rhino 2.5” Lift Rods. With the bump-stop spacers, you gain additional 2" down travel and may run the risk of over flexing the axles of your Land Rover. When this happens, you run a higher chance of binding the CV joints beyond their capability, which can cause failure. The limiting strap will prevent this from happening and keep you moving on the trails."

    Alignment will be set for best tire wear.
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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    I ran my car for a long time raised (only about an 1") above onroad height and had not issues with the CVs - I think that for normal onroad use you will get away with a 2" lift with onroad height selected.

    Unfortunately the CVs are not the strongest and where experience here in Aust shows up them failing is when offroad, at high heights, steering right over and weight transfer to that side. With LLAMs I can lift my car to the equivalent of super extended height and when offroad I am very aware of this issue.

    But if you are not going to heard offroad you should be OK. If you do go offroad, you will be Ok at offroad height and 2" lift and your big tyres) but if you get grounded and it automatically lifts I would be vary wary and keep the steering wheel straight.

    Are you putting a winch in the bull bar and an ARB air locker in the front diff?
    Thanks Garry.

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    I already had brand new 3/8" x 125' synthetic line from a previous project, so this has been installed. Had a Factor55 ProLink from that other project, but they found it prohibited the ARB flip-down/up license plate holder from resting in the down position, and PDC would get angry. So removed the ProLink and going with the new Flatlink Multimount; https://factor55.com/product/flatlink-multimount-new/

    Goal is to eventually go with an ARB air locker #RD217 in front yes; https://www.arbusa.com/site/wp-conte...landRover3.pdf
    That will be some time though. Need to go enjoy the truck as it is, once all the trimming is done for these 33s.
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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Well when you have got it all done, head over to www.aulro.com and tell us all about it
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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Special Ed View Post
    I am running the Proud Rhino SYA kit on mine. There is no place for the front limit straps to mount but the rears are same as the lr3-lr4.
    FYI Bryce has found the same issue. However Erik at PR says that there is no issue with the front mounting point for strap (other than they don't provide hardware). They sent Bryce pics. Here they are to help you too;

    '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc-rrsstrap1.jpg

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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Well when you have got it all done, head over to www.aulro.com and tell us all about it
    Hehe. Are there few modified RRS in AUS?
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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Not a lot but many are used offroad with just the addition of AT tyres and waterproofing the remote air intake into a snorkel.

    This is the sort of mods we normally go too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-wC3uvXWmY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWYH1Qs3JAc

    Misadventure 4wd has a great series of videos offroading a RRS.

    Black Betty is no more - replaced with a Defender but it did have a few CV issues when heavy offroading at high lifts.
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    I have the front mounted limit straps on my RRS, I got bolts at home Depot for a few dollars, though I can't recall the size. A fairly easy matter fwiw. I'd love to know more about the arb lr4 fitment for sport SC (aux radiator relocation and trim) since I just ordered one a few days ago.

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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Update after trying to fit the 275/70/18(33.2") Cooper STT Pro's...well, they don't clear and there's lots of rubbing, EVEN with the LLAMS extra lift. Would definitely rub offroad between front of rear tires and rear lower of rear doors(tire lug tread is already touching rubber trim of lower rear door). Rubbing on the lower wheelwell section of ARB LR4 when in reverse and wheels turned. In highest LLAMS ride height setting (super extended mode) it's drivable, but I can't be driving all the time that high. Took it to the custom body shop for estimate to clearance everything and make it work; due to all the custom plastic welding to clearance/shorten/back to OEM look; ~$4500! Yikes, no thanks. So off the 275/70/18s came and on went new 275/65/18(32.1") Cooper STT Pro's. Tire size I should have gone with in the first place but I wanted to push the envelope--and I did, and now I have 275/70/18 STT Pro's with about 100mi for sale!
    Very slight rubbing with the 275/65/18's on ARB lower in reverse, but they clear everywhere else. Not taken it offroad yet to fully check, but the 275/65/18s should be good. Lesson learned! Still looks aggressive with these 32s.


    Quote Originally Posted by mpetersen3 View Post
    I have the front mounted limit straps on my RRS, I got bolts at home Depot for a few dollars, though I can't recall the size. A fairly easy matter fwiw. I'd love to know more about the arb lr4 fitment for sport SC (aux radiator relocation and trim) since I just ordered one a few days ago.
    They got the limit straps sorted out.
    ARB LR4 fitment isn't too horrible, just takes some new placement of the aux radiator and intercooler--straightforward.

    NOTE; also had some clunking in tranny, harder and harder shifts...tranny fluid/filter/metal pan already done. Got worse after clearing TCU adaptations. They tracked it down to the solenoids in tranny/valve body. New solenoids in and OMG it's buttery smooth now!

    Also have some loose clunking from front end over rough pavement. Seems the front swaybar bushings are shot. Some play in lower control arm bushings, but will have the swaybar bushings done first and see how much that helps. Always something!
    '06 RRS 4.2SC

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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    If you can post any pics or further info on your radiator relocation it would be very much appreciated. I've got the bumper now and am hoping to get cracking this week / weekend.

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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by mpetersen3 View Post
    If you can post any pics or further info on your radiator relocation it would be very much appreciated. I've got the bumper now and am hoping to get cracking this week / weekend.
    Sorry, only pic available. Zoom in and you can see them in front on top of each other;
    '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc-arbfront1.jpg


    Output shaft seal leaking, having it replaced now. Also all 4 calipers got fresh black paint using the G2 caliper paint from TireRack.
    '06 RRS 4.2SC

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    Re: '06 RRS SC; fitting 33s on Comp's, ARB bumper, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by mk216v View Post
    Also have some loose clunking from front end over rough pavement. Seems the front swaybar bushings are shot. Some play in lower control arm bushings, but will have the swaybar bushings done first and see how much that helps. Always something!
    Update on the front end clunk; new swaybar bushings (for A.C.E; active cornering enhancement) solved it. Truck feels noticeably more solid. But wouldn't you know it...a few days later I started hearing creaking (like an old ship) from the rear end when turning and going over bumps in the road. I'm told there's movement in the rear swaybar bushings, so will get those replaced soon too.

    Also to note, we had the plastic rocker panels off for the body shop visit. Re-fitted them with the smaller tires, but the tread lugs rub on the vertical end of the rockers, so had to remove them and keep them off with these tires. The less aggressive tread of an all-terrain tire may clear them, but not these mud-terrain's.
    '06 RRS 4.2SC

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