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    ZF6 oil change

    Hi All,
    Does anyone know how many hours it should take for an LR Indy shop to change the ZF 6 speed pan with built in filter & oil on a 2010 RRS? I already have the parts so I don't want to do the metal pan conversion. I know the engine mount needs to removed or loosened and the exhaust needs to be dropped little so it won't be an hours job but I would like to get some idea.

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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Assuming the bolts on the cross bar are not rusted and don't have to be drilled out...I would estimate 3-4 hours of work. What's your shop telling you?
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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Alldata calls for 4.6 hours to do the pan, which includes drain and filling the oil. I would add in the " guide sleeve", can't recall the part name, but I would get that done too if you are getting the pan+filter done. Let me know if you want the instructions ....not sure if it's posted here somewhere too.
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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    How many miles do you have on this? Seems early for a 2010.



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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Quote Originally Posted by gooseyloosey View Post
    How many miles do you have on this? Seems early for a 2010.
    It's a long way between Horton's... especially dodging mooses... meeces... moosi...
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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    That's true.

    By the way, I'm at 117K, and I think I'm just going with the 3 qts out 3 qts in, rinse & repeat method. Every trans pan I've ever dropped at 120K has been clean and since this one is such a PITA to remove...

    Unless that mechatronic sleeve is leaking.



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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Quote Originally Posted by gooseyloosey View Post
    ...mechatronic sleeve ....
    Thats the name I was looking for
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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    you're welcome

    It might be the stupidest name ever for a piece of plastic.



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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Quote Originally Posted by Frisco_TX_RRS View Post
    Alldata calls for 4.6 hours to do the pan,
    Good data point which proves that it gets done in less time (3-4 hours). The book always calls for more time. Again...all assuming no rusted bolts (in my case, with all the salty sea air) had to spend some time on getting those out.
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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Quote Originally Posted by PJPR01 View Post
    Good data point which proves that it gets done in less time (3-4 hours). The book always calls for more time. Again...all assuming no rusted bolts (in my case, with all the salty sea air) had to spend some time on getting those out.
    True - also I've been to Calgary and Ft. Mac and with the winters there I'm sure it may get rusted...

    Assuming OP drives 10-15k/yr, he must have 50 to 75k miles. So if he is a big of a freak/paranoid like me to do an early maintenance, it should be ok right . I don't go by the 120k rule ...
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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Bang on Frisco-TX-RRS, I have 75k miles and this is purely a PM item. I also have the Megatronic sleeve (what dipwad came up with that name?) so that will get changed also. If you have the procedure I would like to see it as I have access to a lift and fully stocked shop.

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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Well, I'll disagree. Unless you've burnt the heck out of the fluid towing or doing burnouts that fluid is fine to 120K. Don't like to see people spend money when they don't need to.

    But if the sleeve is leaking...



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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Ahhh but there is the catch. Is it not better to change fluids early so that fluid does not end up burnt? After all would you rather have two plates of light fluffy pancakes or one plate of burnt pancakes? I;d rather have two plates, even if I can;t finish them, than deal with one plate of nasty burnt pancakes. Then you have the issue of the burnt stuff in the pan/tranny to clean up instead of a nice shiny clean pan/tranny.

    Sorry. THe thought of Horton's has me craving maple syrup now...
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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    Dam it,
    All this talk of Tim Horton's, now I have to go get a coffee, maybe Boston cream to go with. I wont sleep tonight with the caffeine but I will have lots of time to ponder the pros & cons of early preventive maintenance. Nobody suggest decaf, that is like washing your feet with socks on...there is just no point to it.

    Thanks to everyone for their responses

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    Re: ZF6 oil change

    LMAO... I am also partial to a box of timbits on occasion.

    I for one don't see 75K as all that early. Compared with down time, tranny issues or failure it is good comfort zone insurance. It's the same line of thinking for the folks that change their motor oil at 7500 instead of 15K.
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