Advice/Help with driving in snow
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    Advice/Help with driving in snow

    This monday I will be driving back home to Portland OR from San Diego CA for thanksgiving break. I am planning on doing the 1k mile journey in one go via Interstate 5 the problem is that the weather report is forecasting 4 to 7 inches of snow in the pass and only vehicles equipped with snow tires or chains will be let through. I have had some experience driving in snow and ice but a trip of this magnitude, most of it which will be at night, is going to be something new. Does anyone hear have any tips for driving in snow and with chains and any ideas where I can purchase chains that will fit the rovers 20'' rims. Thank you and wish me luck on my journey.

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    If they really are enforcing snow tires or chains requirement, you may have a problem. Although the stock Contis are probably good enough to handle a few inches of compacted snow if you take it easy, they aren't snow + ice rated and the highway patrol may not be impressed when you show them the snowflake on your Terrain Response knob (but you can try)... The accessory chains Land Rover sells for the Sport won't work on low profile tires such as your 20s - they only fit 18 and 19" stock setups - and nobody was able to suggest an aftermarket chain that could fit a 20" rim last year, when a similar post came up. Of course, you could buy a set of 20" snow tires (the 275/40/20 Pirelli Scorpion Ice&Snow always become available around this time of the year), with those tires on a 4x4 I am sure they would let you through without objections. But that seems like such a waste of money if this is a one-time round trip, plus you're leaving tomorrow.

    Good luck to you and have a great trip, that's quite a hike in one shot even without snow to slow you down. I hope the weather forecast is wrong. Every time I go up to local mountains when "chains or snow tires" are required in winter around here, I never get stopped by anyone, there are checkpoints but they wave me right through (my 18" all terrain tires are not snow rated, although they look like they could be... Perhaps that's good enough for CHP.) In that case, set your TR to snow, switch to CommandShift, slow down and don't touch the brakes unless you really have to. You'll be fine. Happy Thanksgiving!

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    Thanks a lot umbertob, well I guess I will just have to hope for the best. I have toyo proxes st tires and have heard good things about them so I am hoping that they will work just as well, if not better than the contis. Again its unfortunate that there is so little available for our range rovers when it comes to actual offroading and our limited choice of rims/tires and chains is frustrating. I forget who said this on here, it might have been you but this quote deffinitely seems to sum it up

    "19" all terrain tires in the US are simply non existent and yet, in its infinite wisdom, Land Rover picked that size rim as stock equipment when designing the Sport. God Bless them"

    Again thank you for your help and happy thanksgiving, milo
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    Honestly by the time you pay to buy four new tires to use pretty much once in the snow, it might be easier to just pay for a plane tickets and avoid the drive all together. Especially if your nervous about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanFLA
    Honestly by the time you pay to buy four new tires to use pretty much once in the snow, it might be easier to just pay for a plane tickets and avoid the drive all together. Especially if your nervous about it.

    I don't know, referb winter/snow tires for my truck are $87 a piece from Tire Rack. And a plane ticket is what, $1200? Plus a rental when you get in town.

    Just buy a set of snow tires at a local tire place and get them mounted, takes about three hours to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Leo
    I don't know, referb winter/snow tires for my truck are $87 a piece from Tire Rack. And a plane ticket is what, $1200? Plus a rental when you get in town.

    Just buy a set of snow tires at a local tire place and get them mounted, takes about three hours to do.

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    I was worried too but for some reason, my 19" HSE Contis have M+S on them. Go figure, they worked okay in the snow for me. Your mileage may vary.



    Quote Originally Posted by umbertob
    If they really are enforcing snow tires or chains requirement, you may have a problem. Although the stock Contis are probably good enough to handle a few inches of compacted snow if you take it easy, they aren't snow + ice rated and the highway patrol may not be impressed when you show them the snowflake on your Terrain Response knob (but you can try)... The accessory chains Land Rover sells for the Sport won't work on low profile tires such as your 20s - they only fit 18 and 19" stock setups - and nobody was able to suggest an aftermarket chain that could fit a 20" rim last year, when a similar post came up. Of course, you could buy a set of 20" snow tires (the 275/40/20 Pirelli Scorpion Ice&Snow always become available around this time of the year), with those tires on a 4x4 I am sure they would let you through without objections. But that seems like such a waste of money if this is a one-time round trip, plus you're leaving tomorrow.

    Good luck to you and have a great trip, that's quite a hike in one shot even without snow to slow you down. I hope the weather forecast is wrong. Every time I go up to local mountains when "chains or snow tires" are required in winter around here, I never get stopped by anyone, there are checkpoints but they wave me right through (my 18" all terrain tires are not snow rated, although they look like they could be... Perhaps that's good enough for CHP.) In that case, set your TR to snow, switch to CommandShift, slow down and don't touch the brakes unless you really have to. You'll be fine. Happy Thanksgiving!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chronoguy
    I was worried too but for some reason, my 19" HSE Contis have M+S on them. Go figure, they worked okay in the snow for me. Your mileage may vary.
    I think that "real" snow tires should bear the mountain w/ snowflake logo below to be considered OK in lieu of snow chains by the highway patrol, if they are really checking. Most all season tires these days are M+S rated, but they are no substitute for a dedicated ice and snow tire, whether studded or studless, when the going gets tough.


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    Quote Originally Posted by umbertob
    Quote Originally Posted by chronoguy
    I was worried too but for some reason, my 19" HSE Contis have M+S on them. Go figure, they worked okay in the snow for me. Your mileage may vary.
    I think that "real" snow tires should bear the mountain w/ snowflake logo below to be considered OK in lieu of snow chains by the highway patrol, if they are really checking. Most all season tires these days are M+S rated, but they are no substitute for a dedicated ice and snow tire, whether studded or studless, when the going gets tough.


    I looked this up last year. According to DMV & Caltrains, M/S is good enough. However, you may be right.

    From Caltrains

    http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/chcontrl.htm

    and more from CA DMV

    http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27459.htm

    Here is a link about the severe snow tires:

    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/tire3.htm

    When I went to Tahoe last year, I didn't need chains and the truck operate just fine.

    However, BIG HOWEVER, I would put on chains on any car regardless of tires if there was a big enough blizzard.

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    Be sure and give yourself enough stopping distance between you and the car infront of you and dont get over confident and go to fast. Just take your time (if its bad weather) your truck will go anywhere.
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    I drive in the snow and ice with mine and no issues, 7 inches is nothing. Use the snow mode on your TC (it really works!), and make sure you know how to properly work your anti-lock brakes. Keep your distance, be aware of what's going on around you, take your time, and don't drive tired!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksun
    I drive in the snow and ice with mine and no issues, 7 inches is nothing. Use the snow mode on your TC (it really works!), and make sure you know how to properly work your anti-lock brakes. Keep your distance, be aware of what's going on around you, take your time, and don't drive tired!!
    jacksun is that with the stock wheels and tires or did you end up purchasing all-season tires?

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    ok here we area again

    I live in the alps, so I know snow. I drive a quattro, so I know all wheel drive, we also have a SUV 4x4.

    I would never dream of driving through SNOW (not wet roads, but forecasted heavy snow) with M+S or regular summer tires. Expecially if oyu have some kind of responsibility for the people riding with you.

    Stopping distance is GREATLY extended with non-winter tires, as well as just keeping the car on the road. I don't even wan't to talk about temperatures where the snow becomes soggy and ends up just plugging up your tire threads and you basically driving a slick tire.

    go get a pair of winters and if you dont ever need them again, sell them on ebay. or even better, I dunno if that's possible over there, but we can actualy "rent" winter tires from tire places.

    if thats not an option ... fly, get a different car with winter tires on them, or wait for better weather ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil07_RRS
    Quote Originally Posted by jacksun
    I drive in the snow and ice with mine and no issues, 7 inches is nothing. Use the snow mode on your TC (it really works!), and make sure you know how to properly work your anti-lock brakes. Keep your distance, be aware of what's going on around you, take your time, and don't drive tired!!
    jacksun is that with the stock wheels and tires or did you end up purchasing all-season tires?
    All stock rims and tires, 19 inch Conti's, and I'm talking Alberta Canada winters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksun
    All stock rims and tires, 19 inch Conti's, and I'm talking Alberta Canada winters.
    that's good to hear. i was debating getting all season tires right away, but i'll try the stocks this winter and get all seasons next

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