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    ABS and traction fault now

    Argghh this is killing only just got back from the garage last month and here we go again. Another problem

    Took the car for a 5 minute drive to the petrol station. Halfway there I get "traction fault" then when I leave the petrol station I get "ABS fault" and "traction fault".

    Will it ever end?
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    This is usually a mileage thing as in how many miles do you have on this and has the abs been running a lot. Might be the ABS accumulator. If this is indeed low it works the abs pump more than normal and then you are really looking at big bucks. Just a thought.
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    I guess 152,000 would be considered high
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    Today is looking slightly better..

    I dont have the "ABS Fault" or "traction fault" msgs. They have gone, but when I depress the brake pedal I get all 3 of the little round lights up, ABS, Traction and the red brake one.

    Is it safe to carry on using the car like this, or could it lead to something worse like brake failure?

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    Sounds like accumulator to me. Buy a new one, screw off, screw on, done! (Of course you want to depressurize the ABS first, thanks Paul!)

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    Not quite 'screw off, screw on', there's a few safety warnings that you need to follow (- otherwise it can take your head off when you remove it)....

    Have a read of:
    https://rangerovers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14012
    Also the instructions in RAVE.
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    You know, those were the only warnings I got before my alternator died - I know it sounds crazy but something about the those sensors and needing accurate voltage or they trip. - at least thats what the dlr said -but you know the dealers knowlege level. $1K later a new alternator and never saw the codes again. Good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aztrorover
    $1K later a new alternator and never saw the codes again.
    -James
    $1000 for an alternator??
    Next time you need work done, call me. I can fly out there, buy all new tools, do the job, throw the tools away and fly back home for $1000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim-00-4.6
    Quote Originally Posted by aztrorover
    $1K later a new alternator and never saw the codes again.
    -James
    $1000 for an alternator??
    Next time you need work done, call me. I can fly out there, buy all new tools, do the job, throw the tools away and fly back home for $1000.
    I doubt it Jim! LR NZ quoted me NZ$1250 (~US$875) for an alternator for my '97 4.6. Fortunately I had an Extended Warrantee, so I only paid the excess of NZ$250 (~US$175).
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    I guess it depends on the alternator.
    The 150 Amp version for my truck is $725+, the 120 Amp version is "only" $360.
    And plane tickets are more than $200.

    Still, 2 wrenches and two hours for $275?

    I'm going to want kissed first.
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    traction fault

    Back to the problem class!!
    Voltage drop is surely the first check to make, and it's easy.
    If that's ok, the next check should be the abs wheel sensors. The connections are sometimes dirty or the sensor works it's way out of it's location. There must be some sort of electrcal test too but I don't know it.
    The wheel sensors control both the abs and traction control function and that's why both lights show.
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    Re: traction fault

    Quote Originally Posted by pistonbroke
    Back to the problem class!!
    Voltage drop is surely the first check to make, and it's easy.
    If that's ok, the next check should be the abs wheel sensors. The connections are sometimes dirty or the sensor works it's way out of it's location. There must be some sort of electrcal test too but I don't know it.
    The wheel sensors control both the abs and traction control function and that's why both lights show.
    Agreed. I had that happen once before. Also, check your battery... low or dying battery can cause weird warnings.

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    Thanks, I had a new alternator last year and new battery about 3 months ago.
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    I had a similar problem, when I put my foot on the brake for the first time all the warning lights lit. It turned out to be the Cruise Control cancellation switch on the brake pedal had failed. It is easy to check with a multimeter, there are three tags. It is located halfway up the brake pedal, To remove it twist the body, it is a bayonet fitting and remove the connector.
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    re the previous post,

    I'll just add not to push too hard on the switch armiture, it is "self adjusting" to set for the pedal travel when first fitted. If you do push it too hard it will ratchet into the switch body and have to be pulled back out (which goes against the teeth) to it's full extension to adjust back into place again on the brake pedal.
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