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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by leftlanetruckin View Post
    Also having a hard time finding the part number for the front pulley bolt. Mine is grade 12.9 right hand thread.
    The 12.9 bolt should be left hand thread. Part number is LR011952 (10.9 bolt is right hand thread)
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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    I think the plastic hose you're likely talking about is part number LR045238

    It sounds like you may also be missing the correct clip which is #20 in the expanded diagram.

    https://www.ebay.com/p/Land-Rover-Th...d=183395470014

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    Here is the offending hose
    They had it zip tied together.... Ugh
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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    Call Lucky 8 Offroad and ask to speak to Erik, tell them you have questions about parts on the 5.0, and order the parts through them.
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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by Keralis View Post
    Call Lucky 8 Offroad and ask to speak to Erik, tell them you have questions about parts on the 5.0, and order the parts through them.

    Didn't know they did internal engine stuff.
    Looks like Will Tillery, who I normally use for big orders, isn't interested. Emailed last week, called Thursday AM and spoke to a girl there. Resent the email, then got a reply Thursday saying he'd have the quote finished by the following morning.....Then nothing.
    Anyone have a good recommendation for all the timing components, the cam phasers, etc?
    It's outside now, had to get the ydro assist steering on the Disco. That will turn the 37's!

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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    I am in the process of rebuilding a 5.0 NA engine that 2 bad rod bearings - (brought it that way)


    Did much research on parts sources as I needed new crank and all internals including timing chains etc and found these guys who are based in Bahrain. They are half the price of US based suppliers. For other parts that they don't carry I have been using LRDirect. Even though they are both overseas suppliers parts usually arrive 2-3 days after ordering which is a lot faster than US suppliers


    http://alfarismotors.com/

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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    I did a complete timing chain/guide/most everything overhaul a couple years ago, and just recently I got a REALLY ugly noise which grew worse and worse, like a bad power steering pump. Turned out to be one of the cam phasers. Had to pay to pull apart again, replaced all 4, noise gone. Highly recommend anyone do them in conjunction with timing chain if you plan on keeping the rig. Not much more labor at all if done at same time.

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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    They have been ordered too. While I'm in there, doing it all.
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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    A conundrum.....
    The engine will not fully turn over with the crank bolt or starter.
    Kinda difficult to time it when it wont turn over.
    Can turn it @210 degrees with the crank bolt, then it stops solid.
    All timing left in place
    Fuel injector holes plugged
    Spark plugs were in.
    Ideas?? Or is the SOB coming out?

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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    Anybody know who sells internals for the 5.0?
    Pistons, rings, rod/main bearings, etc
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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    The 5.0 is an interference type motor and so it's possible one or more of the cams is out of time.

    When you say you tried the starter did you try and crank it or are you referring to trying to turn the motor using a lever on the ring gear (preferred method)?

    The motor should always be turned clockwise when facing the front of the motor, looking towards the car, to check the timing marks still line up after two rotations.

    If you removed the cams are you certain you haven't swapped them from one bank to the other (very easy to do)?

    Rob

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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    The owner pushed the ignition button Instead of just turning on ignition, it spun the engine. Should not make a difference, as all timing stuff was still untouched.
    I'll post pictures of the results........ Need 2 pistons, and a head.
    Only thing that makes any sense is that the engine happened to let go at that time. the "New" timing parts were not the updated parts.....IF they were done at all. At 211k miles, it was on very borrowed time if not. Yes there were noises up front when I bought it. Which was why a very good condition '10 LR4 was $4500

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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    Timing chains etc...-head.jpg
    Timing chains etc...-head2.jpg
    Timing chains etc...-pistons.jpg
    Timing chains etc...-pistons2.jpg

    Needless to say the one head is off. Other coming off as we speak.
    Engine out this weekend
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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    Ouch - you may as well consider that motor as scrap.

    If you take a look on eBay you can find a used 5.0 NA motor from a MY2010-2013 Jag for around $5K, with reasonable miles.

    "Pure" used LR-sourced motors are typically closer to $9K for essentially the same engine.

    It's pretty easy to "convert" the Jag-sourced-motor over to one suitable for an LR4.

    Rob

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    Re: Timing chains etc...

    Believe it or not....The cylinders got away with it.
    Pulling the engine tomorrow to check the rods etc.
    I'm thinking just what you see though so far.

    Martin
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