Transmission
Diagnosis & Repair (Classic, P38)
Introduction
General Diagnosis
Rebuild/Replacement Options
Repairing Upshift Problems due to Governor
Malfunction
Repairing Seal Problems
Selector Switch Problems
Warning when Reinstalling Engine or Transmission
Photo: Rebuilt
ZF 4HP22 transmission courtesy of
Phoenix
Remanufactured Transmissions.
Introduction
The ZF 4HP22 transmission used on Classic and P38 Range
Rovers is shared with other
vehicles such as the Jaguar XJ6. It should have a long life, but
eventually
it will need attention. (To extend its life, avoid revving the engine
for
any extended time in neutral or park after the system has been
pressurized
by putting it in gear -- see below).
General Diagnosis
If the vehicle rolls while the transmission is in Park, there is a
transmission problem since the parking pawl should hold it. This
problem
is not too bad to fix since it can be accessed from the rear. If
the transmission makes noises or has unusual shift behavior, or for any
other reason excites your suspicions, you can try the following quick
check.
Place the vehicle in park WITH THE PARKING BRAKE ON, put your left foot
FIRMLY on the brake (the vehicle should not be pointing at anything you
don't want to hit), then rev the engine while watching the tach. The
tach
should not exceed 2000 rpm. If it does it's time to think about a
new transmission. If there's a noise, stop... also time to buy a
new transmission or torque convertor! Do not do this test for
more
than a few seconds. Promptly let the power off and idle the vehicle for
a while to let the transmission cool (or drive around under light load
for a few minutes). Excessive testing like this will trash the
transmission
even if it doesn't already have a problem! (This can be done for
each gear).
Rebuild/Replacement Options
When Dave Brown had
transmission
problems, he received quotes for as much as $3,000 for a rebuild. He
finally
found a local trans shop that had experience with the ZF 4HP22, and
they
charged around $1200 plus any extra parts not included in the rebuild
kit.
He needed a detent cable, and total price with R&R, towing, new
(rebuilt?)
torque converter was just over $1300. This was "State to State
Transmission" in Phoenix Arizona.
Dave also reports that he discovered there is a "kit" to allow the
front
clutch pack to "bleed down" (depressurize) when you take it out of
gear.
This is a design fault in the ZF transmission that can cause extremely
rapid wear of the front "A-pack" clutches. Basically, after the
system
has been "pressurized" by putting it in gear, and you THEN (in "P" or
"N")
rev the engine for any extended time (i.e. emission testing, cam
breaking
in, A/C recharge, etc.) the front clutches can blow. A good shop
should know about this weakness and the repair necessary. (Dave
thinks
it might involve drilling a small bleed hole in some part of the
innards).
Other options and sources for obtaining complete transmissions or
overhaul kits are listed below in the section on Transmission
and Overhaul Parts Sources.
Selector Switch Problems (4.0/4.6)
On the electronically shifted version of the transmission used on
the 4.0/4.6 model, the selector switch mounted on the side of the
transmission sends
signals to the transmission ECU to tell it which
gear
you’ve selected. When if fails and starts sending false signals to the
ECU, symptoms include giving false and sometimes rapidly changing
readings of what gear you are in, and in extreme cases it can default
to making the computer think it is in "R", preventing you from starting
the engine. Diagnosis and repair of this problem is covered in detail
on the separate Transmission Selector
Switch Repair Page.
Symptoms & Repair of Upshift
Problems due to Centrifugal Controller/Governor
Malfunction
Winfried Schoepf
suddenly experienced shift-up problems on his 1989 Vogue Auto 3.9 EFI.
He would have to rev up the engine to 4000 until the ZF 4 HP22 decided
to shift. Alternatively, it helped to drive for 3-5 minutes at 20 mph,
then accelerate. Once it had done it, the problem quickly went away.
For
a short while, it then would not shift down to first when stopping, but
after a further few minutes drive and a few stops everything was back
to
normal. This problem gets worse with time, and the cause is the
governor
at the rear of the auto box. This is a kind of centrifugal controller
for
gear shift operations.
Winfried reports that fortunately, this problem is a relatively easy fix. You have to remove the transfer case but not the auto box. Winfried sourced all the parts directly from ZF Austria, using their parts manual for Range Rover. The Auto box serial number is required to get the correct parts. If you have a proper car lift and a transmission lift with special mounting plate for the transfer box, two people are sufficient. If you do not have a proper transmission lift, have two friends ready to take the transfer box off and on, while a third works the bolts! It is a heavy beast and you must not foul the splines. Winfried offers the following instructions:
1. Follow the preparatory procedures for transmission removal. Pay
attention
to remove the fan shroud or remove the fan rotor because you will tilt
back the engine.
2. Remove the transfer box
3. Now you have got the rear side of the ZF accessible for work
4. Disassemble as needed to get access to the governor and pull it
gently off the shaft.
5. Remove the 3 rings on the shaft and clean everything (with auto
boxes, surgical cleanliness is a must)
6. Fit 3 new rubber seals one the shaft (careful, they are square and
must fit precisely, quite a puzzle) using vaseline for greasing
7. Fit a new governor valve complete with valve housing (the one that
sits around the shaft), don't bother to fix the old one, it will not
work
although it appears to slide smoothly. But you may re-use the counter
weight
of the valve housing. Be very careful when sliding on the valve housing
onto the shaft, use vaseline and don't foul the seals.
8. Use new gaskets and refit all the rest
9. While you are at it, remove the ZF transmission sump (well, drain
before) and replace the steel mesh oil screen. Check for debris in the
sump as a sign of impending clutch failure. A small amount of soft dark
stuff is okay, just about as much as would fit under your ten finger
nails.
10. Don't forget to refill all oils before firing it up. Enjoy your
smooth gear shift again!
Parts cost was about $130 and time spent 5 hrs for two people. If
you
just drive it into your favorite transmission shop to have it all done,
expect about $1500.
Symptoms and Repair of Transmission Seal
Problems
Todd
Pfortmiller reported in with the problems he was having with his
transmission, which turned out to be due to worn seals. "Upon startup,
the vehicle drives fine for a little while. Then as the
transmission fluid warms up, after a complete stop Drive will not
drive. It feels like a little lunge, but that disappears immediately. A
quick manual down shift into 1 to engage the mechanical linkage (as I
understand it), gets the beast going again. Up shifting 'manually'
works fine, and even a severe kick down at highway speeds to climb an
8% grade is not a problem."
Todd's Land Rover tech suspected the three governor seal rings
(RTC4660). This turned out to the case -- and the repair procedure is
described on the separate Transmission
Seal Replacement page.
Warning: Care Needed when Reinstalling
Engine or Transmission
Nathan Tucker offers this warning
based on his experience of the transmission pump being damaged in the
process of replacing the engine. He reports: "I removed the engine for
a little work and never removed the torque converter, but alas it
slipped a little on the slines that it sets on and during the refitting
process I inadvertantly pushed the TC against the pump in an incorrect
manner and upon start up of the engine broke the drive gear of the the
pump making replacment neccessary, and totally negating the savings
from removing and refitting my engine. I ordered a rebuilt pump and had
a shop install it to the tune of $900. The couple of shops I called
when trying to diagnose the problem (which was not enough pressure in
the trans and thus making all gears act as if they were neutral) said
that to be absolutely sure that the TC is fully seated correctly that
they actually stand the trannies on end. I personnally have never seen
it, but they said there are some that are real 'touchy'. I didn't
notice anything incorrect when refitting the engine, nor did the
work-shop manual mention anything about the TC, only that it must be
50cm from the end of the bell-housing. I have replaced/installed about
3-4 engines in mostly older american cars and never had any problems...
"
Transmission and Overhaul Parts Sources
Gasket,
Seal and Overhaul Kits
Todd found the seal kit cost $150. FOr the adventurous, I found a
complete Range Rover transmission
overhaul kit is
available
from ExpressAutoparts.com
for only $38, containing Gaskets; Seals; O'Rings; & Sealing
Rings. A Master Repair Kit for $72 contains these items plus
Friction and Steel Clutch Plates, Oil Filter, Vacuum Modulator,
Front Pump Bushing, and External Housing Bushing. For a job of this
importance you might want to go with a Rover parts specialist;
Atlantic British has a range of gasket and seal
kits for this transmission starting at $119.
Complete
Transmissions
If your problem cannot be solved this simply, do not despair as
complete rebuilt transmissions are becoming more affordable. For
example, Atlantic
British has them for $3795.
The very same ZF transmissions are used in many other vehicles, some
transmission rebuilding and parts houses also have them. Dwight Smith found a very low
cost generic source of
the ZF 4hp22 and 24 --
Phoenix
Remanufactured Transmissions. In November 2004 Dave Foster reported that he
got one there for his 2001 Classic for $1,050.
They also ave the electrically shifted 4HP24 used in the 4.0/4.6 for $1,250. Phoenix is a
major rebuilding
and parts house, and all their remanufactured transmissions are dyno
tested and warrantied.
More Information
Transmission
Service Page (Classic)
Transmission Service Page
(4.0/4.6)
Transmission Seal Replacement Page (Classic,
4.0/4.6)
Transmission Selector Switch Repair Page
(4.0/4.6)
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