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    Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    I have just ordered a set of seals for my range rover 2.5 td bmw 1998 fuel injection pump from diesel bob as I cannot afford a new pump or the time it will take to have it reconditioned I will do it myself - I saw somewhere photos of someone having taken off and resealed their Bosch pump and having to line up the nut with the slot for the fuel calibration once I put the top back on the pump but I cannot seem to find it - anyone know where it is I'm not sure if it was on the Landrover site but I've spent ages looking again with no joy .
    Also I will be in need of 1) a set of inlet manifold gaskets does anyone know where I can get these apart from a main dealer please (2) the key to hold the timing in place that looks like a puller combined round tube thing etc If I have to take the pump off completley - again I would rather not go to main dealer if anyone knows where I can get either of these could they please get in touch.

    thanks alot

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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    Have you read through RAVE on this? I've only worked on a 300TDi since diesels weren;t available over here. HOwever there might be directions in section 19 of RAVE.
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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    I forgot to mention I live in Europe France - and am new to this site - What is Rave ? where do I find it?

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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    I cannot help with the procedure,except to say that from what I have read on UK forums ,the calibration of the FIP on the diesel is not a simple diy procedure.It requires the correct tools and expertise.
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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    Quote Originally Posted by John W
    I cannot help with the procedure,except to say that from what I have read on UK forums ,the calibration of the FIP on the diesel is not a simple diy procedure.It requires the correct tools and expertise.
    Shot to shot and cylinder-cylinder delivery volumes need to be calibrated and this can only be done on a rig.

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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    I didn't get a reply to what RAVE was - I am only taking off the inlet manifold and the top cover of the pump to fit a new gasket - I have found a set of inlet manifold gaskets for 90 cents each they are on their way - If I do find another leak then I will take it to my garage that does rangerovers to remove the pump no problem - except cost - They have the special key pully to hold the timing in place for removal - actually they make the tool.

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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    Rave is the name of the workshop manual. There is a section in it which covers the diesel engine.

    Rather than pay main dealer prices, it would be better if you took it to a local diesel engineer. The engine is the same as was in the BMW 525d car from the late 90's.
    It would be a piece of cake for them (or whatever the french is for piece of cake).

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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    Hi Dave ,

    My local garage wouldn't touch it as they only do old cars and sent me to a diesel specialist who wanted 1200 euros just to repair it ! Anyway I have found a couple of English Garages now here in France through Friends and have ordered the gaskets for the pump and inlet manifold - I can change that no problem as long as I fit the top back correctly for the Fuel calibration. If any further problems I'll call on the friendly English garages to help they also have the tools to remove the pump.

    thanks for all your help

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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    Quote Originally Posted by John W
    I cannot help with the procedure,except to say that from what I have read on UK forums ,the calibration of the FIP on the diesel is not a simple diy procedure.It requires the correct tools and expertise.
    We have done it a couple of times, when replacing the seals or trying to correct a bad starting issue.
    The procedure is not that difficult, but takes some trial and error (as explained to me by a BMW mechanic).

    - first of all, one of the bolts holding the top of the FIP has a special triangular head. Use an old socket 6 and tap it on, either the socket or head will deform until they fit together.
    - after putting back the top, leave the bolts finger tight and set the head about half way
    - start the engine, making sure you are ready to turn it off immediately if the revs rise above 2000 rpm.
    - if the engine doesn't start, adjust the top of the FIP to the rear of the car
    - if the engine starts but revs keep rising or isn't idling smoothly, adjust to the front
    - adjusting can be done with the manifold in place, by putting a piece of wood to the FIP and tapping that with a hammer
    - make very small adjustments until you are happy with the idle
    Properly adjusted, the engine will probably feel a bit more lively.

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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    Quote Originally Posted by monkey
    I have just ordered a set of seals for my range rover 2.5 td bmw 1998 fuel injection pump from diesel bob as I cannot afford a new pump or the time it will take to have it reconditioned I will do it myself - I saw somewhere photos of someone having taken off and resealed their Bosch pump and having to line up the nut with the slot for the fuel calibration once I put the top back on the pump but I cannot seem to find it - anyone know where it is I'm not sure if it was on the Landrover site but I've spent ages looking again with no joy .
    Also I will be in need of 1) a set of inlet manifold gaskets does anyone know where I can get these apart from a main dealer please (2) the key to hold the timing in place that looks like a puller combined round tube thing etc If I have to take the pump off completley - again I would rather not go to main dealer if anyone knows where I can get either of these could they please get in touch.

    thanks alot
    Hi,
    Try Youtube & search for 'TDI PUMP seal'. There is a series of videos showing the seal replacement procedure on a VW Passat TDI. it's a very simillar BOSCH pump .It 's very very clear and informative. However, they do a final calibration on 'VAGCOM'- the VW software for diagnostics. Unfortunately RR diesel / BMW does not have such a thing IMHO. But it is feasible without that. In the mean time you better cover all your bushings below susp/steering as they will deteriorate quickly with diesel. (don't ask me hw I know)

    You don't have to remove the pump from the engine only the top cover needs removal. Of course, the intake manifold out of sight, will definitely help. Fyi, the tool is available on ebay search for BMW pump removal tool.

    pls take some photoes when u are doing it.
    good luck

    kapila

    ps- I also had the issue but escaped . a mechanic told me to try a tankful of high sulfer diesel(available here @ lower cost) and it solved the issue so far. (about 1 year )
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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    Hi and thank you to everyone - My fuel pump leak has gone ! Fixed ! hooray -- It took only an hour to remove the top cowling, the black plastic air pipe over the engine, undid the inlet manifold bolts ok with sockeet but last two at the back underneath had to use a spanner, undid a few connectors (remembering where to put them back) banged on a 7mm sockeet onto the triangle bolt and used the torx for the other 3, ( diesel bob nicely supplied me with the gaskets but also a new bolt without the triangle head on it in place of the old one), lost a bit of diesel taking the top part of the pump off - everything looked fine but replaced the lid with the new gasket tightened it down - before putting anything back I turned the engine over and voila no leaks - (I did remove the clear plastic pipe at the front of the pump to get to everything -) cleaned the old jinlet manifold gaskets off and renewed them put the manifold back and everything else - gave the engine bay a good presure clean - now I can afford to put the diesel in it without wasting money !
    I managed to get the inlet manifolds from a uk garage in France plus instant gasket just in case but didn't need it.


    thanks again -- a happy Monkey!

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    Re: Help Leaking fuel injector pump

    Hi,
    Glad that you sorted out the matter the correct way.Did you replace both gaskets or just the top one only?

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