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    FRESHMAN ROVER
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    Key won't turn in ignition

    Hey guys,

    I drive a 07 RR SC.

    So on a regular day, I stop by the gas station to refuel my gastank.

    I get back in my car, and the key will not turn to the right. I try over and over, and the key will not turn. The key is not stuck, it will not turn.

    I call the dealership, and they tell me it is the battery. Luckily I am at the gas station so I have a someone attempt to give me a boost....nothing.

    My radio, headlight everything worked fine. Yet the key will not turn.

    So to make this story short, I get my car towed to the local dealership. I am being charged $750 for a replacement of my ignition starter where my key goes.

    ??? has this happen to any of you?

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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    had this happen a month or so ago. changed the car battery (it was due anyways) and the key battery. neither worked. luckily i had a spare key at home that worked. no idea what happened but the original key seems to be shot.
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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    That sounds plausible (although it's still a ripoff at $750 for a glorified switch with a keyhole...), low battery or other electronic problems - e.g. the immobilizer no longer recognizing your key - should not prevent the key from turning the ignition barrel to pos. I or II, even though the car may not start. Something mechanical must have broken inside the steering lock and ignition switch assembly to prevent it from turning. Sorry.

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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    Quote Originally Posted by umbertob
    That sounds plausible (although it's still a ripoff at $750 for a glorified switch with a keyhole...), low battery or other electronic problems - e.g. the immobilizer no longer recognizing your key - should not prevent the key from turning the ignition barrel to pos. I or II, even though the car may not start. Something mechanical must have broken inside the steering lock and ignition switch assembly to prevent it from turning. Sorry.
    I just received a key from the dealer for my 07 and tried it in the ignition before the key was coded to my vehicle. It wouldn't turn to any position.
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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    I have a 2006 HSE The key would not turn so I was stuck and had to use the wife's car for a day. Run my usual local Range Rover mechanic and he told me to disconnect the negative on the battery wait 10 seconds and reconnect. Hey presto it worked however I now have to do this every time I take the key out of the ignition. At least it has given me the chance to drive it to the mechanic rather than paying the cost of a tow truck. If anyone has had a similar problem to mine and had it repaired please let me know. Thanks R

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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    Do a search on this, its been covered a lot here. the steering column ECU freaks out and you need to remove fuse #18, wait 30secs. or so, reconnect and it will now work.
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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    My 2004 RR HSE just did this today, and I'm not at all equipped to work on my RR! This is exactly what happens: I insert the key into the ignition, I hear a clicking noise in the steering column that clicks exactly 3 times, and I'm unable to turn the key at all. I called the nearest Land Rover dealer (2 hour drive away from me) and he basically told me the steering column would need to be replaced at at cost of about $6,000 USD to me! He said if I get it started to drive it straight to the nearest dealer. The vehicle has 173K miles and I'm definitely not going to spend $6,000 on it.
    Any easy fix tips are greatly appreciated, or just a confirmation that I do not need to replace the entire steering column and spend 6 grand! I have a mechanic that works on it for me that I trust, but didn't want to have to tow it there if I didn't have to! Thanks in advance for anyone who can help this RangeRover newbie out, this is my first one and I love it!

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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    Like I stated earlier, do a search and you'll find lots of post ref. this very comon Rover problem.
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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    Thanks Zubi. I've tried removing fuse #18 for 30 seconds a couple times, but to no avail. I also read something about drilling a hole and spraying lubricant into the steering column, but I'm not at all equipped to do this, nor does it seem a good idea. Can you confirm that this should certainly not a $6,000+ fix? Thanks!

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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    Within the steering wheel column ECM there is a small electromagnetic plunger that fails in one of two diff.ways, "in" or "out" . If it fails "out" the fuse removal will not work. You'll have to figure out another way of getting it fixed, like replacing it with a used unit from Ebay or similar or taking it apart and disabling the whole locking mechanism or similar.
    Drilling the small hole on the side of the ecm only lubricates said plunger, its very tricky as you can destroy the windings to the plunger as you are drilling right next to it in confined space.
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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    You can't disable the steering lock, it sends a signal to the BECM when it locks and unlocks, if it doesn't get one signal after another it won't start the engine. There is no fix known at present, if yours has failed then try the hole and lube, what have you got to lose.....

    This only applies to pre 2006 cars after that RR removed it.... And no you can't fit a later one, it won't talk to the BECM....
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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    So we drilled the hole today in the exact same spot as the pic the guy from blackbox-solutions posted titled L322 Steering Lock Problem & Cheap Solution. We sprayed a 1/4 can of WD40 in, but to no avail. We also tapped with a hammer all around the box that we drilled into where the clicking noise is coming from hoping to break loose the plunger or steering lock, but nothing happen.

    It still clicks 3 times from the steering column, every time we attempt to turn the key.

    I also noticed in some other threads related to this problem that someone posted a graph titled L322 Range Rover System Description and Operation, Ignition Switch and Locking Mechanism and it shows where the locking pin (labeled #6) is, presummably so one could remove it to get the key to turn. Would you all advise against this since it seems that these vehicles talk to all parts of the vehicle electronically, thus preventing you from "rigging" or removing parts and the vehicle still being operable?

    Im into this 2004 Range Rover HSE with 173,000 miles for $12,500 now. Its very clean and very sharp, but I"m afraid that these little problems will keep arising and costing out the ass (I bought it for 10K and within 10 months had to spend 2,500 on new radiator, some belts, and an alternator I believe, which took a long time to even locate the right parts) and this is my daily vehicle.

    Any suggestions are welcome and is there anything I should tell the mechanic to hopefully save him time and me money to get this fixed quickly

    I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys getting on here and trying to help people out with your knowledge, its very cool and very rare these days to have people just trying to help with nothing to gain. Thanks in again guys!

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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    Hey there,
    I have a 2003 Range Rover that let me down in Vancouver, Canada with same issue, had it towed to dealer up there. They were going to disable the locking mechanism for 750.00 but they would not guarantee this would work, it if didn't than I would have to spend between 3500.00 and 8500.00 for a new steering column, plus another 750.00 for installation. I had it shipped to my home in San Diego for 2K. Just arrived today, so I plan on taking it apart now that its in my driveway. I hope to be able to disable in the unlock position, because it won't stay in the unlocked position right now. If you search on Ebay u can find a steering column for under a 1000.00. I will keep u posted.

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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    bobst2003, Did you get into your Rover yet? Let me know what you run into! Thanks,

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    Re: Key won't turn in ignition

    Hello,

    Yes, upper steering column is out of car, pretty east job for the most part. Believe it or not, the airbag kicked my butt, in the end I used a artist brush handle, the manual says 50mm or 2 inches long 1/8 in rod, its more like 3 inches once inside the column. The locking mechanism has a cover plate, but its held in by 5 very small allen or torq head screws and they all appear to be stripped, so I will try and drill out tomorrow. This is as far as I got today, if I can't under that cover plate I may have to buy the steering column, which I was hoping to avoid. This car is going to be the death of me.

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