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    Transmission Oil Change

    Itís been a complete mission to get my gearbox oil changed, Land Rover refused to do it, quoting ďsealed for lifeĒ at me as did a BMW garage and two independent LR Specialists!

    Iíve had to speak to a transmission specialist who shares my views that NO oil can be expected to last indefinitely without breaking down and loosing its lubricating properties. This guy will change the oil and filter for £155.00 which is slightly more than I would have hoped, but it could prevent thousands of pounds of damage in the future.

    Thanks to previous posters who had recommended which oil to use as I wasnít 100% sure.

    Iím hoping to see a slight improvement for my money, I will report back.
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_UK_1984
    Itís been a complete mission to get my gearbox oil changed, Land Rover refused to do it, quoting ďsealed for lifeĒ at me as did a BMW garage and two independent LR Specialists!

    Iíve had to speak to a transmission specialist who shares my views that NO oil can be expected to last indefinitely without breaking down and loosing its lubricating properties. This guy will change the oil and filter for £155.00 which is slightly more than I would have hoped, but it could prevent thousands of pounds of damage in the future.

    Thanks to previous posters who had recommended which oil to use as I wasnít 100% sure.

    Iím hoping to see a slight improvement for my money, I will report back.
    I just had my transmission serviced. I have 80,000 on the tranny, the shop that did it said I should have done it at 60,000 miles. The dealer would not do it. I had it done at a local shop here in Denver, CO USA which is known for their experience with ZF transmissions. I paid about $350, which is more than your £155.00 estimate. (the expensive part is the fluid the ZF tranny uses)

    You are correct ALL automatic transmissions self destruct over time and as a result need to have the fluid replaced. The ZF transmission has a filter in it, wouldn't that indicate they are filtering something that is not beneficial to the operation of the transmission? Wouldn't the life of the transmission be enhanced if the filter and fluid were replaced? Of course.

    Good luck.
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    Hey Dan, why not do it yourself? I am not finding the post right away, but someone posted directions, pictures and I think part numbers. I want to say it was last August or September. Parts were around $150.
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    £155 is not an outrageous price to be honest.

    Filters and oil would come to at about half that alone, and whilst not a difficult job, all the bolts on the sump area pain , some with obscure access.

    the one thing to be 100% sure of is the oil. It needs to be the Esso stuff ... alternatives are available in the US, but I found it difficult to get them in the UK. Actually, the genuine esso stuff was cheapest ! I bouth a 25l drum of it for £100 as I needed to do both my RR and Passat which both use the oil.
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    link to the DIY for transmission oil

    http://www.rangerovers.net/maintenan...nyservice.html
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    copy/paste from rave:

    GM Automatic Gearbox oil
    Use only Texaco ETL-7045E.
    ZF Automatic Gearbox oil
    Use only Esso ATF LT 71141
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    £155 is ok,i was quoted £150 but ended up doing it myself.Like Fisha said some of the bolts on the sump(pan) are a nightmare to get to and with them being torques bolts they do round off and become very hard to get out.
    Get the gearbox specialist to do it,it's a dirty job and the oil sticks!!! you can smell it on you for days later.
    Must say though its made a diffrence in the gear change,its so much smoother and responsive.well worth doing!
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    £150 incs labour sounded extremely reasonable.
    My TDV8 has done 36k, I've had my done by my LR dealer at somewhere in the region of £250, oil alone cost nearer £80 plus filter, and gasket set for the pan, the technician later told me it was very fiddly.....

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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    Anyone changed the fluid in the GM 5L40-E box (as used in the TD6)? I understand Dexron IV (synthetic) can be used in place of the BMW fluid part number 83220026922 (replacement BMW part number 83220403248; Texaco ETL-7045E) listed on the pan label?
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    Anyone done this on an '06+? Also a ZF unit, but I'm not sure if the 03-05 use the same one.
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    My LR Dealer changed my fluid.....oh wait they changed the whole tranny out twice, lol. The dealer should do it I can't image one that wouldn't since they are still making money and it isn't like you have to dismantle the whole transmission.
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    Quote Originally Posted by roverboy
    My LR Dealer changed my fluid.....oh wait they changed the whole tranny out twice, lol. The dealer should do it I can't image one that wouldn't since they are still making money and it isn't like you have to dismantle the whole transmission.
    Seriously, the BMW dealer said "We can't, it's got a sticker on it" So wait a minute, you can change an engine, but you donít have the tools to get past a sticker!

    I really struggle to grasp the mentality of these people, like you say, they are still making money! I'd do it myself if I had a flat drive, and the inclination to get covered in rancid oil!
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    Yup you would think they would take any money they can get right now, but of course they would much rather replace a $6000 transmission instead, lol.
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    [quote="holmesy"]£155 is ok,i was quoted £150 but ended up doing it myself.Like Fisha said some of the bolts on the sump(pan) are a nightmare to get to and with them being torques bolts they do round off and become very hard to get out.

    Homesy
    Where did you get your quote from ? I had a gearbox rebuild about two years ago and noe it's starting to feel "notchy" again. I hopeing an oil change and a bit of TLC by a Transmission Specialist may help. The problem is that they are few and far between. I notice that you live in West London, as do I, so I'm guessing that your quote came from someone not a million miles away from me.

    Could you let me have the details ?

    Many Thanks
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    Re: Transmission Oil Change

    One big thing to take into account is that you are only changing a portion of your fluid when "changing" tranny fluid. There is no drain for the torque convertor and you still have the fluid in the cooler and lines. If your fluid is not discoloured or smelling burnt a fluid and filter change may be fine. However, high mileage trannys would really benefit from a good flush before dropping the pan to swap the filter. Yes this "wastes" a few extra quarts of expensive fluid, but I would rather know ALL the fluid os freash and ready for another 60K+ miles. Of course if you are not keeping the rig long term this is not an issue.
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